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Cryptic negative 1 number. at key inflection points in this plot. that's part of the fact pattern congress is reviewing in these new hearings. the bottom line tonight i can tell you is it appears that the majority of congress backed by a private meeting with speaker pelosi as well thinks they may be on the way to grounds for impeachment very soon. now, as promised i bring in more of our experts. "new york times" columnist michelle goldberg. deana gibbs la-jay of the center for american progress and john flannery, prosecutor back with us. your view on what we learned today and where we're heade...

Been very little change when it comes to republicans' stance toward impeachment. >> yeah. kimberly, i know that you've written about the democrats' reactions following the hearings. what all did they hope to accomplish going into these testimonies? and did they do it? >> yeah, what they wanted was a clear narrative being made, not just to congress, but to members of the public. if you recall with the mueller investigation, a lot of times, the democrats told me that they were frustrated at different inflection points, that congress didn't move swiftly enough to really explain this story to the ...

About stuff, and you're uniquely qualified with that when you look at how you've dealt with jobs in the manufacturing crisis, guns which i'm going to get to and the iraq war. you look at how people understand the stories and how to change minds. i wonder if what we saw from mr. mulvaney, for whatever reason he did it, in your view was one of these inflection points that could change minds. mr. mulvaney coming out to the podium and pressed on the specifics of whether this was an attempt to get a foreign country to do it, tied to extorting a bribe around money, and he says yes. take a look. >> d...

Diplomats trying to fight the system that president trump and giuliani created. and secretary pompeo knows better. he knows the state department shouldn't have been pumping this. >> dan, secretary pompeo knew that the state department shouldn't have been touching this, but he seemingly has been involved at several key inflection points. we saw how the diplomats involved in this particular episode tried to protest, stall, what does this -- what does the future hold for secretary pompeo among the rank and file of the state department who are loyal to the institution and not necessarily to presid...

Since the korean war. this is an attack on another country. and pompeo and others can give them rhetorical support. it was an act of war against them, not us. >> why did pompeo say it was an act of war? he meant an act of war against saudi? >> this was serious, unprecedented and definitively iran which also is in accurate -- >> it was one of those inflection points and are ewe going to go back to what w did and cheney and liz cheney still wants to do, looking for wars starting in the middle east, or are we going to try another approach to getting unstuck. i don't think the american people want...