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Interests or nato interests or ukrainian interests? when i think about it, i don't see how. as a result of those words, is putin going to escalate in ukraine? the answer to that is no. is he not going to negotiate now with zelenskyy, because of those words? the answer to that is no. does it help putin's propaganda at home? maybe slightly, but let me tell you, you've been preaching to the choir about this very topic that the united states is out to get him since i was the u.s. ambassador back in 2012 to 2014, when he accused obama, secretary clinton and myself informant-ing regime changes. from...

Information bubble for years, decades now, nicole. so they're going to be with him to the bitter end. over time, of course, that will hurt. over time, russian soldiers will come back. remember, their soldiers are from very rural places, the people that support him. that's where most of the soldiers are from. over time, that will become a problem. not in the coming weeks and months. i think he has support he needs. we use the phase, needs off ramps. i think in front of whom does he need to save his face? i am firmly believe that there whether only be real peace negotiation when there is genuine...

Their appetite grows in terms of territories, so, those appetites keep growing, and then you are surrounding keep saying believe me now is the time to take this step that surrounding usually create some kind of information bubble around the leader. now you live in that information environment that they created for you. when you begin to live in such a world. then you get such information and undertake such solutions which are terrible. not civilized. not democratic but some kind of authoritarian that's how they took crimea. they took away our donbas and now they want to take more of our territ...

Have been living in that information bubble, literally now, for decades, biden's words don't change anything at all in terms of policy. so on the whole, it was a good thing to say. i'm glad he said it. >> president biden used scary words. do you know why? because he was talking about a war. general tweeting, -- controlling eastern ukraine, and the ukraine's troops are taking back territory. i want to share a bit of wet presidents lynskey and one of his former advisor said today earlier about this. >> i don't think poutine has got a new strategy. he is going to stall until he can mobilize more ...

The iron curtain in the information space through new laws and legislation. for example, we know that russian citizens can face up to 15 years in prison for speaking out against war. but also part of this information bubble is the propaganda that the kremlin is pushing, that bubble, this language about de-nazification of the ukrainian society, this narrative that it is russia who is at risk. that this is an existential threat to russians. that kind of propaganda is also extremely difficult to permeate. so, now, i think that imperative is on the united states and its european allies to find cre...