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civilians abilities —— facilities and infrastructure. he made it clear he wants to wipe out the cranial nation. blowing up civilian apartment blocks and restaurants is something he has done ever since the beginning of this invasion. his aim in part is he seems to think he can demoralise the ukrainians by doing this. of course it has had exactly the opposite effect. as well as the ukrainians, rallies their support of them even more strongly. this isjust going support of them even more strongly. this is just going to backfire on putin. i think one of the reasons he does it is this is all he has got. his military stalemate, now the ukrainians are making slow, but steady gains against russian lines in the east and south of mrs all the putin left with. just before we let you go, what is the appetite like what is conflict in the united states? we know president biden is very much behind president zelensky in terms of financial aid, support, etc. there is an
out and hospitals close the doors because they cannot operate. there is no power and no medicine and people cannot get there safely. it is a truly horrific experience for many people in sudan have not been able to get out and so far the diplomatic efforts have been reinforced and there have been some tops injeddah but it seems —— there have been talks but neither side has been able to get the upper hand so looking at stalemate and it is a question of how long civilians will have to suffer under this military stalemate before the two sides agree they have to talk. a russian missile attack on a hospital in the ukrainian city of dnipro is reported to have killed at least one person and injured
airstrikes, we periodically read of them, hear of them, see them on ukraine that they have been quiet for the last couple of months and i think that is because the focus has been on bakhmut. the russians have started these back up again and it is more of a mission of terror that it is against actual targets even though they are reporting that they were going against military targets. invariably it seems to be hitting apartment blocks or schools or stores. it is the people. it is the innocent civilians that continue to be the victims of this type of terror attack by part of the russian military. to terror attack by part of the russian military.— russian military. to these attacks. — russian military. to these attacks, which _ russian military. to these attacks, which you - russian military. to these i attacks, which you described as terrorist attacks, underline the fact that there is a stalemate across the country? you know, there is a military stalemate that is ongoing, however, as we have seen here,
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anti—tank bazookas like these, more of which are on their way, along with something extra for russia's warplanes. so in response to ukrainian requests, the government has taken the decision to explore the donation of starstreak high—velocity man—portable anti—air missiles. we believe that this system will remain within the definition of defence weapons but will allow the ukrainian force to better defend their skies. a military stalemate could lead to a diplomatic outcome, if the scale of the losses and bloodshed convince both sides to compromise. russian and ukrainian officials are already holding talks on the belarus border. russia says it will stop fighting if ukraine gives up crimea, the donbas and nato and eu membership, demands dismissed by ukraine. but tomorrow, here in the southern turkish city of antalya, ukraine's foreign minister, dmytro kuleba, is due to meet his russian counterpart, sergei lavrov.
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administration from delivering the mig fighter aircraft that ukraine needs. those are major mistakes by this administration. >> martha: putin has set the parameters for what he would accept and not accept. a lot of military observers would like to see that dynamic switched a little bit. here's the "wall street journal" today in an op-ed that is entitled ukraine can win with enough help. ukrainians have rescued europe and the united states as much as nato is assisting ukraine. we said a country goes to work hot or cold with the president it has. we want mr. biden to lead and succeed in ukraine. he needs to lead more decisively. and with a goal of not nearly of military stalemate but ukrainian victory. that is something that people have wanted to hear articulated, ambassador volker. what is the mission of ukraine?
daunting task than even iraq was for the united states. >> i'm not disagreeing with that, joe, and we have some just tales of heroism almost now on every street corner. so i'm not in any way denying that. i just, the russians have more force to bring to bear. they have had a chance to reorganize. and i fear that this next period is going to be even bloodier and more difficult. what i hear is that the russians are escalating in ukraine, escalating at home. the level of arrests in russia is extraordinary. the fears that they're going to escalate in domains, attacks that could spread to nato countries. >> what that seems to mean, if they continue at this clip, they will kill more ukrainian citizens. they will remain in a military stalemate and more russian soldiers will die. it seems like a lose-lose proposition for all sides.
think it's highly unlikely that putin would say, oh, i want to expand this war. i want to get nato involved. i want to get the united states of america involved. i don't think that's gonna happen. but i do think that what they're doing is that they keep using those words, they keep saying those things, precisely, to make them lead the alliance, including the united states worried about arming the ukrainians. and i think we should be strong here, and just doubly say what's we're gonna do, continue to arm them, applaud what the pentagon just announced a few minutes ago, $300 million, or more, in military assistance. the only way there will be peace in ukraine is if there is a military stalemate. and until there is not a military stalemate, putin will continue to attack. and therefore, if you want peace, you get help bring about that stalemate. >> one more question for you, ambassador mcfaul, speaking of the pentagon, the pentagon canceled and missile tesla launch over concerns that putin would view as escalatory. was this the right call? which is the u.s. be doing