Sometimes innocent people get hurt. i don't mean to be heartless. but that is the reality. >> the general alluded to that. they are afraid that people who are helping the afghanistan war effort are going to die as a result of these leaks. >> right. i am not one for hypervoly. >> i would call it intelligent terrorism. i feel like there is a terrorist bent to this and they are going to extort the government and black mail the government and say you are going to release this and you can help us and we do it without your help. i don't think it is fair and honest. >> jim, you are famous for saying ...