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Build back better unless catch and release ends, and they won't do it. maria: well, i just, i find that extraordinary. i think you make such an important point, and i'm going to focus on these two senators and what they're doing from here on out because we have seen nothing up until now. and texas, as you mentioned, doesn't even have that kind of leverage that you actually see the leverage that they have in arizona. >> right. maria: what do you make of where we are? we've got 600,000 gotaways this fiscal year, stephen. two million people haven't been apprehended and, by the way, it could be ma...

Build back better unless catch and release ends, and they won't do it. maria: well, i just, i find that extraordinary. i think you make such an important point, and i'm going to focus on these two senators and what they're doing from here on out because we have seen nothing up until now. and texas, as you mentioned, doesn't even have that kind of leverage that you actually see the leverage that they have in arizona. >> right. maria: what do you make of where we are? we've got 600,000 gotaways this fiscal year, stephen. two million people haven't been apprehended and, by the way, it could be ma...