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About the fact that we are talking about actions taken by and involving the president of the united states, it is jaw-dropping. have we become inured to the muck that this country has been dragged through for the last two years? >> well, i don't know if we can be ininto youred and have our jaws dropped. i'll tell you that i was just reading this document, and in a way. >> well, play aed, by the way. >> i found a certain comfort in the legal propose, right? the idea, i've always felt this way that there's a -- the legal system that we have in this country, it's like an armor protecting us from ...

People are ininto youred to the behavior of the president by then, if it's become both spectacular and boring at the same time, which it might have been, wouldn't worry about. remember, chris, a week ago people in this town were saying gosh, will a two-day shutdown in january have a big ripple effect in november? over the weekend in january. >> don't go by these current -- it seems to me there's three rings in the circus. there's the economy which is looking good. there's the personality of this president which is erratic and dangerous and then there is the investigation by robert mueller, all...

You know jeb well. what do you think he hopes to accomplish with this rather strong shot across the bow? >> i'm not sure had he an agenda. someone asked him questions. he agreed to an interview. but the persona that he says is dangerous, the presidential persona, is the same one he had in 2016 and he won the election. a lot of people voted for him not in spite of but because of the persona. so i think that that won't itself be crippling. you work for the man who obviously stayed all politics is local. not necessarily. if the economy's doing well, if the country's at peace, if people are ininto...

President. and meanwhile, we've all become ininto youred to this outrageous behavior so it doesn't seem shocking anymore when a president runs his white house as if it was a da sadistic reality show. things are really out of control now. now suddenly the people who were -- who purported to be protecting us from this president aren't there anymore. he's consolidated his power and learned how to transcend the lilts put on him. >> you know, i've been. >> just say i watch presidents of limited intellectual ability like q with walk into that office and be an balled at their lack of any kind of soph...