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Scandals when that public appetite is not there, i don't think that's actually helpful for a party or any politician along -- >> the question last segment, what would it take? what kind of scandal? as we mentioned bush in '04. it is true in the second term, approval rating really did drop. he did lose, i guess, part much his base to the extent there are swing voters. he lost them. you can pin that on the scandals of the second term. put it the failures in iraq, that sort of thing. >> unpopular war, casualties there. new stories indicating the war was going very badly. wasn't a scandal so much....

Nothing -- aren't the drones you are looking for, not the scandal you are looking for. i think that's another way that makes the -- this irs piece so different. >> different kind of scandal. i want to put up a tweet here from -- rupert murdoch this week. responding to the irs story. i love that rupert murdoch is on the story poll way to handle the irs story is for a special prosecutor. one politicized government investigating another arm, bad week. used the term special prosecutor. i want to talk about it because -- after watergate we had this explosion of independent counsel special prosecuto...

Thing. if you are outlining exactly specifically what this means, this is also telling you exactly how to structure loopholes to get around it or structure organizations that are officially within the law bumt violate the spirit of the law and so -- that's what people always complain about. groups getting around, hard and why is it common sense? when people try to do it in a common sense way, this is what happens. >> there is a -- that's the issue. that's the issue here. idea this has fallen -- through the evolution of campaign finance, this has fallen to the irs and irs is clearly or was clea...

Looking after -- groups on the right, right now thinks the irs is really out to get them. and yet, it is the irs right now that's charged with overseeing these groups with all the -- money is sort of proliferating. is it -- feasible that we are going to get any reforms since the irs is going to have to implement this in the reform? >> at least people are talking about it. i mean, feel like last year i was covering the subject the entire year and a lot of times you felt like you were right into this vacuum. nobody was paying attention to. the last week i feel like people at least know that ther...

Cents per garment. and the average work earns $38 a month. we are not talking about -- >> seems like comparable numbers. when -- when walmart saying we -- whoever's source saying it, you are raising the cost as something that is similar to a worker's wage. you may be doubling effectively doubling the labor cost of bangladesh. it is not unrealistic. >> let's talk about u.s. workers. it is not surprising that walmart is one of the major retailers that is involved in the outsourcing. walmart, there's -- in the united states, with respect to american workers. u.s. workers. and so -- when we make t...