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Out of the department, it's essentially saying the department of justice can't do justice, and that's not a healthy think -- let's put this issue aside, institution ali, it's a bad idea, it's why the independent council statute was not renewed. the special council regulations envision a conflict with the department so so veer that not only is the attorney general recused, but the department of justice itself is not capable of conducting a fair and independent investigation. and that's not a good idea. >> john, you take umbrage to that, i can tell. >> the justice department as we now have it is...

President trump's accusation that the former president, barack obama tapped his phones during the campaign, taking the spotlight off of russia. robert ray and john flannery. robert, to you, now. the attorney general had to recuse himself many his confirmation hearing starts tomorrow. why not put the investigation in the hands of an independent prosecutor? >> because it sends a terrible message, particularly early on in an administration. my concern is with the institution, the department of justice. the signal that you're sending, if you lift the investigation out of the department, it's essen...

The money is not there under the auspices of the unions, certainly what you're going to find is president obama's going to have a much more difficult time getting elected and winning the state of wisconsin. >> that's how republicans involved in the union stripping stuff in the states explain on fox news the political effect of their destroying the unions. so even if it costs some republicans their jobs in the short run, for the big money guys who have their eye on the long term game. who have their eyes on the horizon, any short term costs for these little state run politicians, that's worth i...