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people can be indicted a bunch of times and still run for office. a black man can't. you just learn to be good, and in the and you benefit from that extra resilience. >> coates: i want to get right into all this with attorney jeffrey toobin, he is the author of the nine inside the secret world of the supreme court. as well as home grown timothy mcvay, and the rise of homegrown extremism. jeffrey i'm glad you're here tonight. first of all take a step back with me. many people are wondering if tomorrow is the day that the appellate court will decide that trump committed an insurrection...

Even clinton, but now a whole range of issues. speaking of clinton, i want to make this clear to the audience there's a lot of questions surrounding this. i know you'll be great to clarify this for us. so many people are looking at the issue of civil litigation, and conduct in office, and what that meant tell me why this is distinct. conduct in office, immunity and prosecution compared to that? >> remember, bill clinton was sued by paolo jones for sexual harassment. the supreme court held in that case that, even though he was a sitting president, he could face the civil case. >> coates: i want...