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Chauvin. minneapolis has a lower percentage of african-americans than glen county. it's 20% black, but that jury was half people of color and that made a difference. we have glen county where this case is taking place. one in three people are african-american. one out of 12 jurors, there's reason to be concerned that this verdict will not be legitimate. >> paul, we'll stay on top of this with you. paul butler is former federal prosecutor and author of the book "choke hold," policing black men. we are getting started this saturday morning on the heels of the bipartisan infrastructure bill. tran...

Election. it was people. it was people like you, secretary raffensperger. are you worried if this happens again, a different result will come out of it? >> to your point, that's why integrity counts and that's why it counts at my position, and all your poll workers. when you think about it in georgia, we have over 2,500 precincts. we have thousands upon thousands of precinct workers, poll workers that volunteer their time, get paid very little for 14-hour days and those are your neighbors and people trust their neighbors and people need to start understand that those are the people doing the h...

Raffensperger's fall from grace for deciding to actually abide by the oath of office should serve as a reminder of the forces running the gop right now. it puts the spotlight on how fragile this democracy is. raffensperger chose to do the right thing, but someone else might not have. someone else might have caved under that pressure. the safety valve of democracy is certain individuals choose to do the right thing. while the overt january 6th attack on the democratic process may be in the rear-view mirror, the covert erosion of democracy is still under way. joining me now is brad raffensperger...

>> no. you have taken the oath of office and you have honored the oath. >> secretary of state brad raffensperger, thank you for joining us this morning. we appreciate you did do the right thing. >> thank you, ali. >> author of the book "itegrity counts." i'm joined by the reporter for politico. he is looking into the january 6th aftermath. you study it so closely. there is a concern around that there are trump allies who continue to manage to run the clock out and not face justice. we understand there are 20 more subpoenas ready to go out from the january 6th committee. will they get something...

The 2020 election laws. brad raffensperger. i appreciate you being here. you're also the author of a new book called "integrity counts." your new book is evidence in the probe of mr. trump and his role to try to overturn the 2020 election. when you heard the former president proudly recount his interactions with you, and, of course, you were there, you took the phone call from him, did you think to yourself that he might be trying to build is some sort of a case or he was trying to lay the groundwork for there to be some level of building a case against himself? did it seem like it was coming ...