Are not shocking. they're not surprising. they're kind of shocking morally, but to me more than anything they're confirmation about what we always suspected. how do you see these documents? >> i think you're exactly right, we can't be shocked by the contents, we've been talking about this for years now. but nonetheless, i think having somebody who's come from within the belly of the beast, who was right there in the civic integrity team, who can come forward and explains in a very human way, with these problems are. and who's also got this wealth of evidence. i think it was an eight sec filing...