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Call between president trump and ambassador gordon sondland at a restaurant in kiev. security experts tell cnn that russian spies were likely listening as well. joining us now is jane harmon. jane, great to have you here. how are phone calls between u.s. presidents and ambassadors in foreign countries supposed to work? >> not like that. let me say that football mess reminds me of congress. the only good news is everybody doesn't weigh 300 pounds. but they don't apologize afterwards either. >> obviously. i was struck by that. but explain to us. when you heard about this phone call, the revelati...

Conference today with sean spicer saying clapper is being misleading. he's changing his story, but, in fact, it's the white house who is being misleading, and donald trump is hanging on to this testimony from clapper earlier on and hanging on to some comments made by grassley. this is their big defense. they are hanging on to him, but, again, it's -- they are cherry picking and it's misleading in terms of what clapper actually said and what he would actually know. >> what white house officials are saying he was the top intelligence official knit united states and he says he didn't see there's ...