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Say that's old math. that's a different kind of political math. this guy spends all this time watching television and tweeting to directly reach people who support him in the country or who don't necessarily support him and he's trying to influence the debate in a way that he uniquely can do that. and so people have that debate. it certainly should raise concerns about how much process there is around important decision making, and it should tell us something quite interesting and alarming about how much is unhealthy within the west wing that this kind of material is getting leaked because the...

Until there is more investigation, you're not signing on to the agreement of who did this? >> i think the hacking of the dccc and the dnc is very clear, that it was two groups connected to russian intelligence. i think that is a very clear idea. now, what is a little bit more ambiguous is who within russian intelligence okayed this activity, how much did vladimir putin actually know. there is all this reports about a cia report -- >> but didn't you see an intel community report that is saying this went up to very high levels? >> what we saw was two unnamed officials in the national intelligenc...

Joining me now to talk more is republican congressman will herd of texas, a former cia officer and serves on the homeland security committee. congressman, thank you for making the time for us. you hear erin's report that there are so many potential terrorists that could be tracked. but we now know that the attacker was known to german authorities. so to you, that he slipped through the cracks so many times, is this a failure on the part of german authorities or are they drinking out of a fire hose when it comes to potential threats? >> i think they'll have to analyze this. earlier this year i ...

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