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The intel world has become defiant, just yesterday at the former cei director john brennan expressed outrage that anyone would ever dare oversight that secretly oversee our lives. >> i'm supposedly going to be interviewed by mr. durham as there is no investigation. william barr when he was testifying in front of congress at a didn't understand the predication of the counterintelligence investigation that was launched into russian's interference in the 2016 election. i don't understand the predication of this worldwide effort to try and cover dirt, either real or imagined that we discredit that...

Putin? >> i don't think you would cultivate someone with that access, you have to grow them. get someone at a junior level and you need aspects or motivation or somebody who wants to give up their country. this person is considered to be a traitor. you need access to the individual. do -- do they travel overseas and trying to meet clandestine in moscow is hard to do if they are not traveling overseas and the patience over years to watch somebody grow even if they are not in significant positions before, so that they are at the place now where you could get access to putin, that is incredible i...

Came in, he had some criticism of the world of intelligence. it had more to do with the obama administration, frankly, than it did with his administration, and he made some comments about wanting to make the right kind of changes that would improve the intelligence community. very honestly, with the leadership we have in place right now's chris wraif y at th fbi and others, these people are doing a really, really good job of providing the right kind of leadership. morale is always an issue in the intel world, but when you have good leaders who are setting the right kind of tone, it really make...

>> i think when the president came in, he had some criticism of the world of intelligence. it had more to do with the obama administration, frankly, than it did with his administration, and he made some comments about wanting to make the right kind of changes that would improve the intelligence community. very honestly, with the leadership we have in place right now's chris wray at the fbi and others, these people are doing a really, really good job of providing the right kind of leadership. morale is always an issue in the intel world, but when you have good leaders who are setting the right ...

Of them and they don't like what has happened in terms of former intel officials going out and being very political. maybe not all of those 13 but in the intel intel world, the former intelligence professionals, they wish that somebody like brennan had not decided to go and make it political because it makes it harder for all of them. the importance of them being able to talk when another without fear, it's really important for all of our futures, i think. >> there are two things that i want to raise because we have to go quickly. i was listening to chris wallace on the 3:00 show and chris was...