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In their world, if you discuss any of this, you're race-baiting. >> strikes me as stuff from holder, my sense about this is that both eric holder and barack obama have benefited politically enormously from the fact that they are african-american and the first to hold the jobs that they hold. to those two men, race has been both a shield and a sword that they have used effectively to defend themselves and to attack others. and i think is depressing at this stage in our national life after all we've been through on this issuing and given the overwhelming consensus on the issue of civil rights th...

About egypt and how to understand egypt. >> so, what should the u.s. do? >> i think, look, it's a long story. and we have come to this -- this egyptian protest is happening without any inspiration from the united states. i mean, if you really look at what's happening, not only in egypt. but if you widen the lens, and you take a look at the arab world as a whole, you see there is a kind of irrelevance of american power because the message was sent out early on in the obama administration we do not interfere in the internal affairs of this autocracy. but we are invested, our treasure is invested...