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At the same time, just like i said with -- i think it is important they exercise oversight in that, they need to do the same thing for what, you know, has been reported, as you said, by multiple sources, of the potential of targeting political folks using the intelligence apparatus. the people doing intelligence, collecting intelligence from the communities every single day are great people. we're talking about at the top levels. again, no facts here, but i think it is something that warrants oversight and warrants her coming in and testifies. >> congressman, i appreciate you being with us. i ...

His statements were according to him inaccurate. the fact is that had it not been for "the washington post" writing the story this week, he would have never have revealed his meetings with the russian ambassador, and look, it is pretty much common knowledge in washington, d.c., at least among the intelligence community that when you're talking to the ambassador from russia, you're talking to the kgb. you're talking to the intelligence apparatus. >> he's a spy. >> of russia. >> he's a spy. >> i think i've been pretty clear with my definition and explanation. everybody knows who you're talking t...

Again, yes, we all want the intelligence community to cooperate. we all want it to run more efficiently. we want it to run better. but to bring in a billionaire pal of yours who has a number of defense contracts it feels like another slap in the face to the intelligence community. i would just say there are so many missteps that at this point he really needs to take them seriously. billions of taxpayer dollars go into supporting our intelligence apparatus. we have the best intelligence apparatus in the world despite its flaws. i think the administration did a disservice to itself, a disservice...

Substituting his judgment for that of the president on this issue. >> jenna: are we headed to the supreme court, is that the next step based on the string above your arguments? >> there is no way this is not heading to the supreme court unless the president clarifies this and does it more judiciously. >> jenna: let me ask, what happens if sean spicer doesn't step to the podium to say we have made some changes, then do things change? >> remarkably it changes. the president has the intelligence apparatus and law enforcement in the military, and yes, the judge should not be infringing or replacin...

>> step in the right direction. look, our intelligence apparatus is pretty darn good. they really are. and if they're saying the russians hacked into the election and all this stuff, i'm sure it's true. now, the other shoe has yet to drop. president obama has promised a report before he leaves office, which is going to pretty much give chapter and verse except for the stuff that has to be kept aside for our own protection about just exactly what they did. i think a lot of us are going to wait and see. the other problem that donald trump's got is that john mccain and lindsey graham, who are pro...