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And classified information are leaking it out. that's a real concern for this president. that when he's talking on the phone with a world leader, when he's making key decisions in the interest of protecting this country, that we have to wonder whrorpb people who work for our government, who are entrusted with classified information and decisional based material, are leaking that information out. >> does he have a point or is that deflection? >> i think there's a point there. there are a number of different people on capitol hill and in the administration who i have talked about who are concern...

Seems to be arguing, all of the things that it did. >> i would say two things. one is, right, that's sort of true although it is not ultimately true for this reason. the question here is does this data collection violate the constitution, the fourth amendment. that's never actually been finally litigated by the supreme court. >> in large part because they haven't been able to. >> because they haven't been able to because the government invokes state secrets. so we have a process for dealing with ultimate questions of constitutionality in our system and that's the supreme court ultimate rules o...

And the broad different bureaucracies that comprise the intelligence community is many of them have been privatized. contracting in the intelligence world is very lucrative. and so you've got large operations, dan nan priest did a beautiful job in the washington post last year documenting much of the growth of the intelligence industrial complex. and so it's not surprising at all that someone like ed yard snowden would be part of that process. i have known air force personnel working in the national geospace needle agency in their air force uniform and retired and got the same job as a private...