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Not clear how much they will be willing to say. >> joining us now is shane harris. he's an intelligence and national security reporter for "the washington post." he co-wrote this article. shane, thanks for joining us to share your reporting. what do you know about this phone call and the promise that was made? >> what we know essentially is what we broke in the paper last night. this communication happens between the president and a foreign leader. we don't know when and we don't know the leader nor how this individual found out about it. there are things we can deduce. we know this person is ...

National security analyst ned price, and "washington post" national security reporter ellen nakashima. ellen, this breakthrough reporting by "the washington post" about what was involved in this whistleblower complaint, we've been talking about this complaint for the last few days back and forth, the refusal to testify, now the testimony as we speak by the inspector general of the intelligence community. but you and your team at "the washington post" have new reporting about what this involves. >> yes, we reported last night the substance of the complaint involved a phone call that president t...

Matter how explosive the charge it is supposed to, if it's working correctly, bubble up and make its way to the appropriate audience. and in this case, in this rare case, a first in the memory of veterans on capitol hill, this case has been blocked from being heard, correct? >> that's right. so far the director of national intelligence, the nation's top intelligence official, is refusing to disclose details about this whistleblower complaint, saying essentially that there are other equities here, that this involves the communications of somebody who is not -- who doesn't work for me basically....

About. >> a flagrant abuse. how high up would the intelligence official have to be to know this kind of information? we know in the past that calls between president trump and vladimir putin, we have calls from the russian side. >> it has to be someone at the highest levels of government to do this. it has to be through an intercepted call, or someone that has seen those kind of -- >> what kind of person, if it is a flagrant abuse, that would be a seen your senior person. >> and what makes me lean that direction as well is the ig for the dni right, atkinson, he said his assessment was that thi...

Mark zuckerberg and his harshest critics. what lawmakers want to know now. as gun reform legislation hits another wall, activists and 2020 democrats aren't slowing down. msnbc is teaming up with two prominent gun safety groups for a presidential forum on gun safety reform. our big announcement coming up in just a few moments. right now, behind closed doors on the hill, a laerg on an urgent concern about a conversation that the president had with a foreign leader. that conversation was so troubling, apparently torques an intelligence official that they filed a whistle-blower complaint. here is ...