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Evidence so far? >> it's not just lack of evidence, it's lack of knowledge about the whole process. this kind of ignorance of how the intelligence process works, that intelligence services give you that information. i went to just look at the number of requests, 702 requests that then ask for an unmasking of a u.s. person. about a quarter of them do. it's not unusual. something like 500 u.s. citizens names were revealed in 2015. having looked through those reports myself, you often see a name redangted or it says a u.s. person. most of the time it doesn't seem relevant. but sdwroob say if you'...

New york times interview today, maggie haberman, glen thrush in the oval office. he accuses susan rice of committing a crime flat out. the president said quote, no, you have a lot of information. no, you have so much information. do you think she might have committed a crime? the president replied yes. i think. and the former undersecretary for foreign affairs and still with us defense, jeremy bash. how do you come out and criminalize a former u.s. ambassador, former security advisor with a glaring, yawning lack of evidence so far? >> it's not just lack of evidence, it's lack of knowledge abou...

But they are not tortured in the same way that the enhanced interrogation technique program is. >> are s.e.a.l.s trained to waterboard. >> no, not -- not all. and i believe none are now at this time. >> liz cheney keeps saying that if the united states captures anyone else as a result of the treasure trove from bin laden's compound we don't have an effective way to interrogate them. >> you know, that's absolutely amazing. i find that, you know, it appears that ms. cheney has adopted sadism as some form of religion. this is not the way the intelligence process works. this may have delayed by fi...

Is. >> are s.e.a.l.s trained to waterboard. >> no, not -- not all. and i believe none are now at this time. >> liz cheney keeps saying that if the united states captures anyone else as a result of the treasure trove from bin laden's compound we don't have an effective way to interrogate them. >> you know, that's absolutely amazing. i find that, you know, it appears that ms. cheney has adopted sadism as some form of religion. this is not the way the intelligence process works. this may have delayed by five or six years us actually getting the critical information that we kneeleded to actually f...