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Programs that aren't solve ept and going insolvent, i can't explain that. it doesn't make sense to me. i want to work with everyone as long as we can start paying for things. that's all. i can't put this burden on my grandchildren. i've got ten grandchildren, and i'd be -- i just can't do it. >> no paid family medical leave for his grandchildren. it's a big deal. it provides new parents with paid time off with newborns. it helps families cope with financial security without losing their job. it keeps them productive. in the middle of a health crisis, in the middle of a worker shortage, many ec...

Is not enough money to pay all the bills. the u.s. would have to pick and choose which bills to get paid. workers wouldn't get paid. you have j ppmorganjpmorgan's j saying they're gaming out. the last time they did this it cost them $100 million. that's according to reuters. this is a dangerous game to be playing really and going right up to the deadline is just a simple intelligence test for washington. even if the tax receipts are a little bit off, what is coming into the treasury and suddenly it is october 17th is that date when you can't pay the bills, that triggers an accidental default, ...

>> also, if you have two bills, one that has the support of 19 republicans and the other one that has the support of none but then you have americans looking at how this affects them, i wonder if they really discern, christine, between these two things? when you look at -- assuming that everything moves forward, how are americans going to feel this day to day in their lives. >> they're different but absolutely related. this infrastructure bill, 550 billion of new spending. this is an intelligence test that congress likely just passed, right? because investing in your infrastructure is really e...

The point that i'm making here in a funny way i admit is this is not intelligence test. it's to determine if you have predementia. that's just the reality. although i'll play it for you, to his point, he does love to talk about how smart he is. >> yes, he does. you know, he is so good at the game of poker, international poker, that he has managed to mick a man who ordered the murder of his stepbrother, kim jong-un, look reasonable. donald trump's policy has managed to make the north korean regime look reasonable because of the steps it has taken to have a dialogue with south korea. now, that t...

No, no. >> jesse: he owns the apartment, right? >> kennedy: why are we getting caught up in this 1950s lingo? you don't necessarily need wires in order to get all the information and conversations that you want. >> juan: there was no authorization from obama and no political motivation. >> kennedy: let's say that a fisa judge gave intelligence test the intelligence apparatus the freedom to go ahead and gather some of that information. which could have been emails, phone conversations, cell phone conversations. you don't need wires to tap in. >> juan: but it was paul manafort. not donald trump....