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Just a day after germany's leader called president obama to complain, to complain about alleged u.s. monitoring of her cell phone, britain's guardian newspaper says a classified document shows the national security agency monitored phone conversations of 35 world leaders. cnn's chief national security correspondent jim sciutto is here in "the situation room" looking into this story. what are you finding out? >> it's incredible. i have that nsa memo here as first reported in the guardian which gives the details. it's dated 2006. remarkable detail they were going into, going after the direct lin...

Congress al-libi is the operative behind the al qaeda expanding network in libya and directly tied to al qaeda senior leadership. this is more recent picture of al-libi which is involved in strategic planning which included forming training camps in libya which al qaeda saw a growing opportunity to build the network after the fall of the libyan dictator qadaffi. he was the main liaison between the network's leader, al-zawahiri and jihadists in libya with u.s. officials and analysts insisting his intelligence value is high because he began serving al qaeda in the 1990s. >> the al qaeda core is ...

Possession to the chinese intelligence services, to the russian intelligence services. as part of their damage assessment of just how bad the snowden activity is. >> but in terms of that, the snow den government would want to do the same thing? >> they would want the information in his possession. it's a balance, you're balancing what is the intelligence value. you want to get maximum intelligence value, anything in his possession. you want to minimize the political fallout. china had him for a period of time. they could talk to him, and then they wanted rid of him. clearly that's the calculat...

The boston bombing happened and ft. hood while these programs were in existence. why weren't those caught? >> true. it's hard to prove a negative. it's hard to demonstrate that in a way that doesn't compromise the intelligence value of these programs. i think there are channels that need to be followed in terms of briefing members of congress is a classified secret setting that wouldn't release information to the general public in a way that would compromise this intelligence but would do it in a way where the people's representatives can decide whether or not this is a worthwhile intelligence...

Waterboarding at that point. >> no i wanted to bring khalid sheikh mohammed to guantanamo out of the shadows. tell the people we had the mastermind of 9/11. the united states doesn't disappear people. >> bill: he didn't want that because he wanted to do it secretly. thought he would get more al qaeda. >> khalid sheikh mohammed was pretty much past his intelligence value we were told. >> bill: why didn't cheney in your opinion when you had this difference of opinion. i'm sure you listened to his point of view. >> i did, of course. >> bill: why didn't he want a public exposition of what mohammed...