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Why in. >> if the chopper went down they would not have wanted it to be turned over to the enemy so they would leave and blow it up and get out. >> we look at video of the compound the big fire is of the helicopter. >> yes. >> we thought much controversial lies in the compound and he has been there since 2005 and now it is on fire. do you think it is possible that pakistanis realize "we have been had," we will cover our tracks. or is the chopper something that ignited the entire place? >> the place might have been ignited but if the seals set the explosives they took off every piece of informa...

>> we do know moussa koussa arrived here yesterday, came of his own choice but media reports in britain suggest he may have arrived on a british government pla plane. the foreign office says he's resigning his post as foreign minister because he's no longer willing to represent the gadhafi regime abroad and they're now talking to him about that. no one is officially using the word "defection" here yet. if true, as nic is saying, he obviously represents a significant prize perhaps as representation of pressure that exists upon internal members of the gadhafi regime and efforts to persuade those...

This guy as an american citizen. >> there's an exception -- >> there's an exception -- >> ticking time bomb exception. >> they used that exception in this case. 48 hours where they questioned him without reading miranda rights, a public safety exception. they went by the law. then they read him his miranda rights. he continued to talk. there's nothing to object to. >> they say, you have to know your customer here. if you're interrogating someone, you'll make a determination. i mean, there are plenty of interrogators out there, fbi and others, who know full well, you can get somebody, especiall...

And, the interesting question is, how significant the contact it was and how high up it went and you wouldn't normally expect an american coming into have access to very senior people but there could be a lot of intelligence value, based in -- on what he can tell us about his training, who he interacted with, and, most importantly, other people who might have -- he might have seen who are trained operatives. bill: and depending on whether or not it is true, if he's singing like a bird the last couple of days, maybe he has given up the information. what he reminds me of of, remember the attack ...

This involves the collection of intelligence. best to do it and not talk about it. >> former head of the c.i.a. bin laden unit says he has significant intelligence value. >> he's very important in the taliban. the overall military commander. he will be missed certainly. if the packs persuade him to talk he has good information for us. >> experts say he will be replaced and the war will go on, unless he gives up critical information about key taliban and al-qaeda leaders including perhaps whereabouts of bin laden. >> bret: that would be something. thank you. new york mayor bloomberg take on vic...