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If they're true, from a medical standpoint, i think, would be the most concerning. >> thank you very much. always great to get your perspective. let's bring back our cnn political analysts. so once again for our breaking news, john avalon, if he's out as the v.a. perspective nominee, then who's in? who could possibly be next? we've talked about how vital this agency is, how much these veterans need help and is there somebody else -- that's what took so long in getting rid of david shulkin, there was no plan b for who would run the agency? >> the president has teased the idea that he has quot...

Environment which probably would not bode well for the folks that came forward. >> your colleague senator merran says he met with dr. jackson who has denied ever being drunk on the job with this quote, he does deny that he's done anything wrong in service to the country and particularly his time at the white house as a physician in the medical unit. does that denial ring true to you? >> i think that that's the very reason why we need to continue vetting dr. jackson and it hasn't stopped. there's an ig report from the navy that has come out that i have not seen yet that we need to see in the se...