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I would say employees that worked for me at the cia nearly uniformly were aimed at achieving the president's objectives and america's objectives. >> pompeo told lawmakers he believes no organization is exempt from malfeasance. jared kushner's lawyer said he was questioned for a second time by robert mueller in the russia collusion and contacts with foreign nationals for a second time last month. kushner was interviewed by mueller's team last november. the attorney says kushner team believes he is now finished with all ongoing inquiries. >> in the meantime, jared kushner cleared the security ...

Blowback. but there was also a lot of blowback when he put jared kushner in the white house, when he put ivanka trump in the white house, and so on and so on and so on. he, the president, has not shied away from, you know, controversy and doing things that are against protocol in the past. we'll see if that happens. but first and foremost, you're right, erica, we have to find out whether or not jared kushner's interim clearance has gone away and we don't know that yet. we're certainly trying to find that out. >> all right, dana, kate, chris, appreciate it all. >> thank you. we are live in pa...

>> we have a classic double standard. if any of my former colleagues were in a job that required them to have top secret sensitive information access and they could not get a permanent security clearance they had to get an interim clearance, they would be fired. they would be out of the job. probably placed on administrative leave and ultimately let go. however in the white house, for people close to the president, especially the family the requirements are lower, the standards are lower and people like jared kushner continue to receive the pdb or some people in the intelligence community are ...

I know that you will do the right thing, and you know, you handle it. after kelly said that he is changing the rules. so what is that all about? >> well, it is another cloud overhanging the white house. we have had some reporting i i think that is from cnn actually that part of the delay in the security clearance for jared kushner is due to the fact that he is wrapped up in the mueller investigation, a fnd that is true, the interim clearance is not going to be lifted. not made permanent any time soon, and so this issue is just going to continue to play out, and what secretary kelly going to do...

Get kushner classified information while circumventing the rigorous process that would normally have kept him out or gotten him fired. say they do clamp down on this. then what happens? kushner has been there for a year, getting classified information. we know he has ties to russia, israel, saudi arabia. we don't know what he is doing in his position. we know that he has these back channels and these connections and that he has information that's incredibly valuable, that could be sold on the market. we know there is a market for state secrets. these problems with these staffers with interim c...