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Now -- you know, in the central american border surge, a lot of these people coming over voluntarily surrendered to a border patrol agent. it wasn't the matter whether they were getting stopped, they were seeking out border patrol agents because they knew they had to be waived into the country to show up for a hearing at some future date. and all of the time i.c.e. is coming across illegal immigrants in jail and doesn't do anything about it. that's really where the interior enforcement is where we should focus more. it's easy for everyone to say, the border, the border, the fence, the fence. >...

Now -- you know, in the central american border surge, a lot of these people coming over voluntarily surrendered to a border patrol agent. it wasn't the matter whether they were getting stopped, they were seeking out border patrol agents because they knew they had to be waived into the country to show up for a hearing at some future date. and all of the time i.c.e. is coming across illegal immigrants in jail and doesn't do anything about it. that's really where the interior enforcement is where we should focus more. it's easy for everyone to say, the border, the border, the fence, the fence. >...

Down on the employers who employ illegal immigrants. the employers are very powerful. they don't want to deal with this. they consider it undue regulation. and a lot of small businesses, they like the cheep labor. that's the dirty little secret here. >> on this issue, this is one where jeb bush has gone after trump saying, he's not really a conservative. if you were you wouldn't mandate spending this money that the government doesn't have to put up this wall that's not going to work because it's going to cost money that the country doesn't have. >> i wouldn't say it's unconservative to talk ab...

One of the gop candidates speaks out of both side on the immigration issue. anchor baby last week. this week, policy in nuanced terms. when he talks comprehensive immigration terms, the terms he uses. and hillary clinton uses. all of the conservative base is amnesty. a good reason for that because he doesn't want to go forward with any enforcement mechanisms. doesn't really want to secure the border. interior enforcement. of what the conversation is within the gop there are some who want to pretend they will do enforcement. they will actually go forth with the laws as written. or add to the la...

It. >> we don't obey the laws. >> this is the problem. the border is not secure as the administration and as the administrations prior have claimed. that's the first point. the second point, is we have laws on the books that are not being enforced. we don't need more immigration laws we have them. >> that's exactly right. >> it is illegal to enter the country without permission. that's the first thing. >> that's exactly right. >> it is illegal to harbor illegal aliens inside a city in your home anywhere. that is also illegal under federal law. the problem here is that washington, d.c. has tied...