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as many as 850 people. we will have much more on this in 20 minutes from our senior white house correspondent ed henry. now, i want to show you an x ray like none you have never seen before. take a good look at this. these are people crammed into a tractor-trailer in mexico. they shouldn't have been in the trailer nor in mexico, nor in the united states. where this rig and another like it were allegedly headed. they were stopped yesterday in the southern state of chiapas. 530 migrants who authorities paid $7,000 each to make a journey that is not just illegal but dangerous. in the ...

what happened in this raid, but they seemed very, very concerned about the next raid and the one after that and that those kind of raids are going to be much riskier with how much information is now out there. >> we have from my perspective gotten to a point where we are close to jeopardizing this precious capability that we h e have, and we can't afford to o do that. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com this this fight isn't over. when you extend that to the military and their families, from my perspective, it is time to stop talking, and we have talked far too much about this. we ...

Right that the nature of american public life at this moment makes these problems worse, exacerbates them instead of mitigating them? >> i think the big problem is the technology. because this has always been part of human psychology. the problem is now technology, in particular the media on the internet, allow people to inhabit their own reality on websites. the conspiracy theorists that i interviewed don't watch the mass media. typically, they are in their own internet bubble of people who think like they do. so in their mind, they are not outsiders because they are surrounded every day, vir...

Already been having a lot of problems. and home prices. so, this really is a big deal to the average american. >> eric: you call it the largest tax increase basically. it sounds like it's the secret saraher is -- sarah -- >> it is a tax hike. that's the only way you have got to call it. as i said some key democrats are saying no way. not in this economy. not with unemployment near double digits. should you be raising taxes. >> eric: brings us back to the clinton era when it was like 39% at the top rate. look at the economy under president clinton. >> yeah. but remember there was a big internet...

Gdp in deficit per year. .8%. is that good? in any other context other than government, i mean, you know, your company is doing this. you will be blowing management out. your household was losing money like this. you might get an extra job, cancelling the cell phone, the pay channels. but in politics, he's the most fiscally responsible man in the universe. of course, this was mainly because of the yet-to-be-discovered internet bubble and yet-to-be-discovered financial scandals, but honestly, you know, if you want to believe this is because of the magical policies, that's fine. i don't care. fi...