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Rectitude. donald rumsfeld said this this week. water boarding, let's be blunt, did not produce an enormous amount of intelligence, to say that they just aren't facing the truth. how do you respond? >> first of all, i'm not going to comment on specific pieces of intelligence in the source. point two, i can tell you this. that the intelligence achievement here, the intelligence assessment that was brought before president obama beginning in the summer of last year which resulted in hundreds of pieces of intelligence over many years by the cia and other institutions in the government, no single ...

No single piece of intelligence led to this. david, that's not the way this works. over time, you have professionals combing through this, and the case goes cold and it heats up again, right, you know -- >> but the specific point, did harsh interrogation help in the effort to ultimately identify where he was? >> no single piece of intelligence led to this. now, we had intelligence -- >> but both things could be true. >> yes, but -- >> answer my question. did harsh interrogations help in the hunt -- >> i'm not going to comment on specific intelligence except to say that intelligence was gathere...