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Experience. not learned from some academic or theoretical position or from a comfy chair in an office somewhere. she has learned, and the agency learned, very difficult lessons from the past. and she's been very clear that we're not going back there. laws have changed. the belief -- the understanding what was wrong with that program has developed, and, you know, again, i don't know how many times she's going to have to repeat that. >> one of the things she said, we did get valuable information from detainees. whether or not certain interrogation techniques were the reason why we got that infor...

Their mind. >> we know that rand paul has an issue, but that math may still work out. >> that could have been a taped response. when you say that ran paul has an issue, doesn't that come up every time there is a close vote. ? gina haspel's nomination brought the cia's controversial detention and interrogation program back to the forefront because of her reported involvement in it. after the 9/11 attacks the cia set up secret prisons known as black sites in eight countries including thailand, afghanistan, and poland. detainees were subject to enhanced interrogation techniques such as water bo...

What rule did she play in the brute's interrogation techniques and what did she feel about it? she said some things democrats wanted to hear. the cia will not go down the road again, it's against the law. even if president trump wanted to bring this back, asked her to do it she would resist, but on this question what did she personally feel about the techniques, were they moral, immoral? she refused to answer. we have sound from the senator from new mexico trying to get an answer to that question. let's take a listen. >> i know you believed it was legal. i want to see -- i want to feel, i want...

Secured to provide classified briefings and information. so she is behind those closed doors with intelligence committee members who have been coming and going as they have pressed her for information. this is also where the intelligence committee regularly hold its classified briefings during the week. so, really, in the context of a hearing like this, the performance art you see out in public in front of the cameras but a lot of the real questions are kept quiet because many of the questions simply cannot be answered in an open forum because they are still classified. i think you hit on exac...

Something from you. you are messing with trump a lot more than they are. we are just moments away from what is shaping up to be a very contentious hearing for nominee gina haspel. and while we're doing that we're learning exactly what haspel is expected to say to the senate intelligence committee itself concerning harsh interrogation techniques and torture. i want to go live to kendall laneny on capitol hill. okay, ken, the house released some prepared remarks. what did it say about torture, gau because you know that's the sticking point for a lot of people. >> reporter: absolutely is, steph...