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Welcome back. we saw thousands of tea partiers rally in washington on tax day last week and a recent political poll shows the movement is split between social conservatives, who look to sarah palin as their leader and libertarians who look to congressman ron paul. it's an honor to have you, sir, you're a leader of a movement. sometimes you remind me of my hero growing up, who was in fact barry goldwater. and then i grew up and i began to see the complications of life like people get old and they don't have a lot of ability to save money, so they need social security and we need a civil rights ...

Welcome back to "hardball." we saw thousands of tea partiers rally in washington on tax day last week and a recent political poll shows the movement is split between social conservatives, who look to sarah palin as their leader and libertarians who look and support congressman ron paul. it's an honor to have you, sir, you're a leader of a movement. sometimes you remind me of my hero growing up, who was in fact barry goldwater. and then i grew up. i began to see the complications of life, like people get old and they don't have a lot of ability to save money, so they need social security and we...

Already there. this is not a suit that that is going to involve any witnesses. this is going to be decided on a brief. somebody is going to write a brief, a judge is going to make a decision someone is going to win, someone is going to lose, the supreme court will make a decision certainly on the issue of whether it is constitutional or not as it relates to the commerce clause. does it hurt the state of pennsylvania to be included in that process? >> sure, because if i were the attorney general and tom corbett our attorney general is a good lawyer. i would want two or three of my staff members...

Elected to just put our finger to the wind and take a public opinion poll and do what the prevailing mood is at the time. we elected to use our own judgment to figure without what is best in the long run for people we represent. >> greta: sometimes you can take it a little extreme and people think you are arrogant and not list anyone. the best example is what happened in massachusetts. i don't think the people in massachusetts felt they were -- any way a couple of questions about health care. one is the commerce clause of massachusetts that you raised about mitt romney. it is my understanding ...

Already there. this is not a suit that that is going to involve any witnesses. this is going to be decided on a brief. somebody is going to write a brief, a judge is going to make a decision someone is going to win, someone is going to lose, the supreme court will make a decision certainly on the issue of whether it is constitutional or not as it relates to the commerce clause. does it hurt the state of pennsylvania to be included in that process? >> sure, because if i were the attorney general and tom corbett our attorney general is a good lawyer. i would want two or three of my staff members...