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Say this is likely to be more than just a local case because he's committed federal crimes and there's likely to be a federal prosecution at the end of it? >> i think it's very likely, your previous guests before the break speculated about why the fbi is involved. the fbi is automatically involved under statute, they are allowed to be automatically involved in a kidnapping under the assumption or presumption that the victim or perpetrator traveled interstate commerce. if the victims are released within 24 hours, there is a brother presumption that they have been taken interstate conference. fb...

80000-pound rig could pose? >> actually, it is kind of a misnomer. in 49 states and the district of columbia 18 -- 20 -year-olds can already drive a tractor trailer. the safety administration regulates interstate commerce. and so right now and he went under the age of 21 is not allowed to haul a load that's going across state lines. but they are already doing it in 49 states. so in wisconsin you can drive for 50 miles from lake superior down to racine as long as you're not crossing that state line a 19-year-old can do it. so at the administration under the new infrastructure bill passed the sa...

Instrumentality or facility of interstate commerce in furtherance of his crime that makes it federal kidnapping. for example, if he's using the phone to convey a demand at this lady al qaeda be released, that will get you federal kidnapping. even though there is no domestic terrorism statute, because of federal definition of domestic terrorism that would include basically coercing the united states to release lady al qaeda from custody so there are all kinds of ways the federal government can be involved. jon: what about a weapon? we been told is on, he claims he's armed but we haven't confirm...

In a way that interferes with interstate commerce. >> i want to turn back to a line of inquiry you had with senator durbin earlier today when you were talking about your sentencing in these child pornography cases. i want to make sure i understand your answer there. if i understand it, you were making the argument that your concern was that the laws in this area didn't adequately take into account the transfer of these materials by electronic means to be transmitted, received and stored through computers? is that my understanding of that correctly? >> well, senator, my -- the point i was makin...