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Has seen so far, maybe he feels that way. but the reality is defense attorneys, we're always a little bit in the dark compared to what the client knows and what the witness knows. we still never know and we cannot download what is in someone's memory or in their brain. >> virginia, giuliani said if trump twor sit down and interview mueller he has been told that mueller will not ask trump about michael cohen. what do you make of that? do you think that mueller actually had that conversation? do you buy that bob mueller is telling him what he will and will not ask? >> no. i've been a broken reco...

Giuliani gives for not wanting trump to speak to mueller is claim that's mueller's team is biassed. i want you to take a listen to this and then we'll talk. >> president is very anxious to testify. he knows he's done nothing wrong. it's us, his lawyers who have real, real hesitation about it. i mean, look at how biassed people who started this investigation were. i never seen an investigation -- >> you think robert mueller is a biassed man? >> no. but i think he is surrounded by biassed people. >> so here's the interesting thing. we have a new "washington post" poll suggesting that public supp...

Protecting. emmitt flood is not charged with -- he's a government employee. he's a public serve anlt. he's in charge of protecting the white house. giuliani is a personal attorney to donald trump and in some cases private citizen mr. trump and, you know, it spills over into president trump. but they're just playing different games. >> danny, also this morning on "meet the press," giuliani said that there are new conditions that he is setting for an interview with mueller. he is setting conditions for mueller. >> i think this is a bluff. i think giuliani is trying anything he can to get any inf...

Powers of the presidency. not crisis but argument over the powers of the presidency and special counsel. i suspect the courts rule in favor of the president ultimately. the fundamental question i never thought there was collusion. i've always argued against it. there is no evidence of it. having said that the only person who can declare this dead is bob mueller. i would oppose any end run around mueller to have sessions stepped in. let mueller end this where it needs to be ended which in my expectation will be an exoneration of the president of the united states. and that's why trump is a toug...

Legal team. who is advocating submit to the interview, and who has been advocating do not submit to the interview? >> generally speak, based in our reporting with carol leonnig, my colleague, we learned that ty cobb has been supportive of the idea of sitting down with mueller. he is a veteran washington lawyer. his perspective based on our reporting is one shared by the president. that if he sits down with mueller and his investigators, he will maybe be able to conclude this probe and bring it to a quicker end. but then john dowd, the president's recently departed russia attorney, he's also a ...