powers of the presidency. not crisis but argument over the powers of the presidency and special counsel. i suspect the courts rule in favor of the president ultimately. the fundamental question i never thought there was collusion. i've always argued against it. there is no evidence of it. having said that the only person who can declare this dead is bob mueller. i would oppose any end run around mueller to have sessions stepped in. let mueller end this where it needs to be ended which in my expectation will be an exoneration of the president of the united states. and that's why trump is a tough spot, though. if he sits down with mueller for an interview mueller could get him on a perjury rap if he makes a mistake. the politics won't look good if he doesn't sit down. it will be messy. >> bill: you think the court would rule in his favor if this were to go to the supreme court.