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Of the conference we would've expected a big interview say with the guardian. he did something with the sunday mirror but i think the guardian, there wasn't really a major piece there. i think he struggled because of the pandemic and because ofjust where we are with the labour party. i think he has struggled to have a proper hearing from the press. and i think that part of that is because he hasn't been able to break through due to covid, but also because he hasn't really, as he said today, got his house in order. i think today that's been a slight game changer in terms of how the media regard...

We have a much fuller online offering i think than we did five or ten years ago. i think that shows the website today. let's go back to the political events of this week. keir starmer in the party conference. how well do you think starmer and his team handle the media? i would have said before today there have been teething problems. i think they have been on the eve of the conference on the eve of the conference we would've expected a big interview say with the guardian. i think he struggled because of the pandemic and because ofjust where we are with the labour party. i think he has struggle...

A bit difficult it's certainly been a myth mismanagement of the oil resources in venezuela for years but. calling it a genocide is going a bit far but as you mentioned before there are three hundred thousand people that are in of risk of dying if the medicine doesn't come in early and we have seen two point three million people fleeing the country because of this economic crisis that has been going on for years now so people in the country also feeling facing a dire situation we know the mother of government is blocking that aid at the border at the same time we also heard though in that inter...

Is now against this. it seems to me, they are moving further, republicans are, from that target, not closer, is that the reality there on capitol hill? >> reporter: well, steve, that's what we're trying to nail down exactly. a couple pieces of information just in the last few hours. first of all, to set the stage, you have the house speaker brian in an interview say, yes, we don't -- acknowledged they don't have the votes right now, but he said that he feels like they're moving in the right direction. but then, i talked to kevin mccarthy, just a few minutes ago, who is the majority leader, of ...