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If it's under oath in the grand jury, you have the opportunity to also charge perjury if a lie is told. so there are a lot of reasons why sometimes people will want to put a subject of an investigation into the grand jury. but, again, in the normal course, you would first reach out to a subject's lawyer, to donald trump's lawyer, to ty cobb and say, will you please come in for this interview, and you would do the sit-down interview. >> norm eisen, ty cobb walked this back a little bit saying he's ready to meet with him but he'll be guided by the advice of his personal counsel. he said arrangem...

It. this was done internally by the same institution you want to say you can't trust. >> this was subpoenaed by devin nunes. >> the inspector general's report had them. that's where he got them from. the inspector general's report. >> the inspector's general's report, but we were demanding -- >> when mueller was talking about these texts, he moved on them. he took them off -- strzok. lisa page was already gone, so he couldn't. you didn't figure this out. nunes didn't figure this out. this was in the i.g.'s report, an independent agent. it shows accountability. it shows transparency, and yet yo...

We have to find out. you made mention of trump interviewing mueller. that's one heck of a point. >> mueller interviewing trump. i know that's what you're dreaming of. >> no. it was trump interviewing mueller for the fbi position. it's one heck of a note he interviews him for the position. doesn't want to hire him. within 24 hours rosenstein appointed him to. >> it was the president choice. who he relied on for the assessment of comey. now can't trust him for mueller? you celebrated him. he's a decorated veteran. >> not a single american wants to be investigated by -- >> the president who is no...

Set you free? when he is, in the event, ultimately cleared in this investigation and he has sat down, and he has faced the questions, that's what will give the president the opportunity to wave his success and his exoneration in the face of all his critics. but there is a big "if" in there because the president said something else today that is a prime example of what he does not want to happen when bob mueller is sitting across from him. now, there's a lot of political spin out there, i know. two sides are going after it about what 24 means. that is just political b.s. and punditry. this is a...

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