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Get away with that because they've gotten away with it all these years. no one ever said i'm not doing this this, hell with you. and the richest man in the world saying i'm not playing ball and i'm calling you on it. i don't think they anticipated that. >> josh, we know president trump and david pecker had a very close relationship. we also know the president's disdain for jeff bezos. on january 13th, the president tweeted -- so sorry to hear the news about jeff bozo taking down by a competitor's reporting that i understand is far more accurated in the reporting in the lobbyist newspaper amazo...

Possibility there was a connection here with saudi influence and why the saudis may have wanted to basically use "ami" to go after "the washington post." we don't know if that's the case. the company has always denied having foreign influence. but we do know that david pecker, the head of ami, long sought to create favor with the saudis as he went into the kingdom, even seeking help from president trump during a white house visit to basically play matchmaker there. we also know saudi arabia has a major bone to pick with jeff bezos and "the washington post," because they have really been drivin...

Able to confirm their a authentici authenticity, but this was in the last week to two weeks. so it doesn't appear to have been going on while they were under investigation bezos and - >> we don't know. we don't know when those pictures were taken from bezos. it appears bezos doesn't know when those pictures were taken from him and based on the pictures we've seen posted, there's no indication as far as when those pictures may have been taken, which would go to your point as far as when was this activity occurring? it would seem to be difficult to believe there would be illegal activity ongoing...

That's what makes this not necessarily an extortion slam dunk. they did not ask for a bag of cash from jeff bezos to not publish these photographs. they asked for essentially favorable coverage or refraining from covering in a certain way. now, things of value need not be tangible under extortion law. so it's probably the case this will qualify. and it's not the same slam dunk as it would be if you're demanding gold bars or a bag of money. shares of amazon. that's the traditional view of organization. it doesn't mean to be that literal. >> why would they put this in writing, stu? >> good quest...