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Don't have a say in the investigation. that's a big pet peeve of mine, anyway, that there is a lack of transparency and a lack of family involvement in the investigation process. so unfortunately, it is even a more difficult situation in malaysia for those families. they are really dealing with this for the first time around. at least here in the u.s., we have the family assistance act that provides some kind of structure and responsibility for the airline and the investigators in how to conduct and how to keep the families informed. they really don't have anything comparable there in malaysia...

Pre-programmed waypoint changes of last week. we all reported. that turned out to be false. now the malaysians are getting the bad rap for that because everyone said they said it. but they put out the statement on saturday saying that the acars that after 1:07 nothing happened. we have to separate fact from myth from what we believe has been said. and the truth is at this point we have absolutely no idea officially what took place. >> to add on what richard said, this is an accident investigation. there is a lot of proprietary information that in the states and malaysia probably has the same s...

You have been saying all along there was something catastrophic that happened in the cockpit. ie, a fire. they were trying to get low enough to get the toxic air out of the cabin and out of the cockpit. correct? >> that may have been part of the procedure. it was obviously an urgent situation. if that's indeed the case. once again, we've got military radar we've kind of ben skeptical on whether it's accurate. 12,000. this kind of feeds into my scenario a little bit. i'm not doing an i told you so thing. the investigation process is ongoing. >> your scenario is? >> my scenario is the fact that ...

>> this needs to be an open investigation still. when you look back at january 29th, eric holder said about this issue, all options are on the table given the fact there's not been a determination either to bring charges or decline this case. you look at january 30th. the attorney. general sent a letter to jim jordan who was one of the questioners today basically saying that they couldn't allow employees to discuss anything because they are in the middle of an open investigation. they can't discuss that. how on earth could the president be at odds in terms of where this investigation stands? >...

>> he apparently was involved in an incident yesterday in the chow hall. he was taken to segregation, i believe, pending investigation. i have not received any incident reports relative to this charge. so i want to go down here and just talk to him briefly and find out what happened. so i came over as part of my investigation process to try to figure out what happened. give me your side of the story. >> um, okay. well, i didn't want to sit at any of the tables that were present. so i started to leave. and i shoved a piece -- the ham in my mouth -- >> right. >> tried chewing that and putting my...