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In my mouth -- >> right. >> tried chewing that and putting my tray in. >> just grab something to eat and take off. that's what you were going to try to do. >> exactly. and then mr. phelps told me that now that i ate something, i had to sit down. i said, well, as far as my understanding of the rule is, that's not the way it's supposed to work. so i said, no, i don't. i started to leave anyways. and he said, you have to sit down. and like, no. >> so then they put you in handcuffs and came over from here? >> yeah. but the main reason i didn't sit at the table i was at is because i prefer to sit o...

But as of more recently, i'm starting to get more of a clenching in my stomach, feeling like it's getting tied in knots. >> you know, really as far as the hearings room goes, you know, that's not going to -- >> i know there's no insanity pleas. >> that's not going to get you an awful lot of play. i'll be honest, i'll shoot as straight as i can with you in the hearings room. and one way or another, we'll get through it. i do plan on talking to sergeant phelps. what he tells me will have quite a bit of bearing on where we go with this. >> yeah. >> and good luck on the northeast/southwest thing. ...