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>> by the way. >> what the unions have said is they're not interested in the right wing agenda, which is repeal obama care. they just want to fix this so that they get benefits. because what they're worried about, to get back to our last segment with eric is, they're worried that they're losing out in terms of benefit packages and the like in the mid is of this recession, the middle class is shrinking and what the unions, people who do have jobs are getting less in terms of health care benefits and now they want to take advantage of the subsidies that exist for poor people -- >> but what makes...

>> by the way. >> what the unions have said is they're not interested in the right wing agenda, which is repeal obama care. they just want to fix this so that they get benefits. because what they're worried about, to get back to our last segment with eric is, they're worried that they're losing out in terms of benefit packages and the like in the mid is of this recession, the middle class is shrinking and what the unions, people who do have jobs are getting less in terms of health care benefits and now they want to take advantage of the subsidies that exist for poor people -- >> but what makes...

Because we're so idealogically divided. >> we talk about foreign policy and security policy from world war ii forward. there hasn't been an iota difference between presidents republican or democratic when it came to the brass tax of national security. sometimes there were difference on the surface matters, sometimes in the way we portrayed it, but there hasn't been much difference. you have to come to george w. bush to find real significance. now we're tracking back to the center where both parties understand u.s. national security interests. i'm waiting for the republicans to articulate that ...