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He is the only person who deserves blame? >> i don't think she only deserves blame. some of the blame should go with her. she has a long track record. she worked briefly in the clinton administration, was fired. she was famously a character on television whose job it was to get fired. but president trump hired her. he hired her knowing who she was. he wanted her there. he spoke glowingly about her. so, you know, he bears the blame here. and i think from a pr perspective, given the lack of credibility that she had, this story i think would have gone away by now if the president didn't feel the ...

Still guessing, increasing by 4r5078%. but i think an earlier point you made was that it makes this a numbers argument as opposed to the human element. this is where i think it's gotten things off track because the public polling has shown 64% of people think those who enter the country illegally should be deported but 88% of people think that families should be kept together while they're going through that process before they deport them so it's clear people don't want to see families separated so we need to get them back together as soon as possible. i know people in the government are work...

Investigate, put trump aides under surveillance, that is what strzok has in his head. the question is whether he can answer those questions before congress while the investigation is still pending. >> and his team seems to want to mount to vigorous defense of strzok. he's hired these lawyers, that is their job. what is interesting to me, a pr team talking about here are the different points of why strzok is not as controversial as everybody says he is. remember, he was sending anti-trump text messages to a colleague with whom he was having an affair with at the time. from a pr perspective, do ...

Looking for russian collusion in the trump campaign has not been found. i think it's frustrating. they want to wrap it up at this point. as guiliani said earlier on an interview on cnn. one reamed to obstruction. that's a very tricky thing for the president. but i also think it's a tricky thing for mueller. because he has to get into the president's intent when he fired james comey. i don't think he has it. >> well, the investigation is ongoing, dave, if the investigation is ongoing, yes the subjects of the investigation can be frustrated and all of that. does this name calling and conspiracy ...

Business interests, so i don't see a law violation. maybe there's a public policy about paying people closely affiliated with presidential campaigns that is unseemly but not illegal. >> from a pr perspective, you're paying, brian, donald trump's personal attorney to get incites into what may happen with your deal, does it look good? >> it looks very bad. it may not be illegal. it's not illegal from what we know but it looks bad. it is the stench of the swamp and that stench effects both trump and cohen but also at&t and the other companies that were working with cohen. now the view from at&t h...