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Case and he did look at it and then closed it and only reopened it for a hot minute. you know when? after he met with rudy giuliani. >> but this is where, again, we have to look at the context here and we have to look at the full scope of what's going on. because when president trump -- and i would push back on asha to say president trump did task bill barr with this. he is tasking the resources of the official capacity of the united states of america -- >> bill barr says nobody ever told him to do it. >> well, but that's -- again, bill barr was tasked with that. and rudy giuliani as a private...

Should look at everybody's family. >> but if this president is so worried about corruption -- >> the media has been -- >> hold on. congressman, i don't understand your logic. if the president's worried about biden because of corruption, why didn't he care about any of the corruption in his own administration? why didn't -- why didn't speaker -- why didn't the speaker in the gop go after carbiden when this happened? >> how chris, how you and everybody else on msnbc and cnn go out and say the president's corrupt, the president's corrupt, the president's corrupt -- >> i actually have never said t...

Your logic. if the president's worried about biden because of corruption, why didn't he care about any of the corruption in his own administration? why didn't -- why didn't speaker -- why didn't the speaker in the gop go after biden when this happened? >> how chris, how you and everybody else on msnbc and cnn go out and say the president's corrupt, the president's corrupt, the president's corrupt -- >> i actually have never said that. >> -- but you never point to one single thing of corruption. >> asking the president of ukraine to look into your political opponent -- >> then why wouldn't he l...

Say president trump did task bill barr with this. he is tasking the resources of the official capacity of the united states of america -- >> bill barr says nobody ever told him to do it. >> well, but that's -- again, bill barr was tasked with that. and rudy giuliani as a private attorney to mount a full-throated vigorous defense for his client, which is donald j. trump, not the president of the united states -- >> he wasn't acting as a private attorney, though. he was working with the state department. >> exactly. he's acting in a private capacity -- >> but he's acting as a private -- he's act...

Corrupt, but you know the country that's really corrupt? it's the united states. you might hear lines like, okay, the americans talk a lot about democracy, they talk a lot about independent judges, all of that, but really, they're a country just like us and this scandal, this story fits perfectly into this particular russian narrative. you know, the story that the u.s. is corrupt, ukraine is corrupt, everybody is corrupt. we're all cynical, so it's okay that the russian state is profoundly corrupt as well. this is an ideal line. there are some indications that some of the odder details that yo...