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>> christie is obviously running as a republican, he is a republican but he seems to be taking a very different tone on this investigation. listen to this. >> i don't think there's anything political about what jack smith is doing. >> how effective is it calling it a witch hunt and stuff li that? it seems to be effective among his supporters. >> i think it's effective among his supporters. i think once you get in the courtroom it's not effective at all. >> with election lies. >> do you think voters are listening to christie? >> i think ultimately he's talking to suburban voters, independent pe...

Election, but that doesn't mean that that was the only advice he was given. as anybody understands what happens in the oval office there numerous amounts of advisers, politicians, lawyers not just one or two that are giving you advice and telling you what they believe is true. so he may not agree with mike pence, he may not agree with one of his lawyers but that doesn't mean that there weren't other people advising him exactly the opposite. the president has a right, as every one of us do to listen to several opinions and make their decision. >> what do you make of that? i >> think it's balone...

You don't know what jack smith is doing. could he still use this admission, or could he not use it any needs to go his own process? >> this admission isn't in mission in a piece of civil litigation in federal court in washington d.c.. obviously criminal process, that's run by the justice department, is different, it involves different legal standards. it involves different standards of proof. i don't think it's quite as simple as just saying could the special counsel or some other federal law enforcement officer just use the admissions, but certainly the vision that we have been pursuing some,...

Into some of that. betsie, i want to show you what mr. donoghue said recently. i think there's something so fast about how he consumed the congressional committee's witnesses. we have more now to sort of marinate in them. here's what he had to say a couple weeks ago or last week on "news nation". >> for some people donald trump will always be a man who's targeted because he stands up to corrupt elites and for others he'll always be benedict donald, a leader who puts his own interests above the countries. those people will not be convinced either way. we have to focus on the people who have not...

Michigan, arizona, georgia all being in the mix for jack smith, it's about holding people accountable. sending a message that look, we're going after the big guy, yeah. but you are part of this and you may be facing these charges as well. and the jury appealed to that. imagine the guy in the graphics department for special counsel smith who has approached trial here if this goes the way we think. there are going to instruct the creation of graphics for the jury. there is going to be spoken wheel with trump at the top and you're going to have with johnson and michigan and georgia, and the jury ...