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You've spurred an optimism in this country that's setting records. i'm deeply humbled as your vice president to be able to be here. i want to thank you for speaking on behalf of and fighting every day for the forgotten men and women of america. >> matthew, a number of people come away saying he is not of this world. question to you is who is mike pence in your view? >> well, it's really hard to say. i mean the on sbsequiousness an the flattery are such a constant now, and they have been ever since he was named to donald trump's ticket in july of 2016. like you said, i covered him on the campai...

The flattery are such a constant now, and they have been ever since he was named to donald trump's ticket in july of 2016. like you said, i covered him on the campaign. the cadences, the lines, they're all the same. you know, he just sort of is on repeat. he sticks to the script, and he makes sure he's always praising president trump. who is mike pence? i don't know. he doesn't really seem to have core convictions or beliefs beyond whatever donald trump's decided they are. he used to be for the transpacific partnership. now he's against it. he spoke out against the muslim ban before he was the...