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That the unimaginable that was happening was unimaginable to the people that it was happening to. they couldn't believe this is happening to us, when they started hearing reports of oh, my god, after the invasion of the soviet union in 1941, they started hearing reports of mass, mass murders in parts of poland that were now under german control. and they were, like, in warsaw, we can't believe that people are getting slaughtered. this is impossible. this can't be happening. and well, that happened there, but it will never happen here. and there was the genius of the germans that they gave peop...

Where 200,000 -- this is the largest uprising of world war ii -- 200,000 people die. you know, it is just a slaughter. then the soviets come in. you know, when the soef jet vie in, the secret police is coming in, and they have to navigate that new minefield. and eventually, they have to smuggle their way into palestine. it's an epic tale stretching from '39 all the way to 1946. >> talk a little more about what happened to isaac zuckerman. >> isaac ended up founding a kibbutz in israel. you know, it really -- i did want to focus on sort of the happy -- this is supposed to be an uplifting story....

He's my cousin. we spent a lot of time together growing up. he beat me up a lot, too. >> did you beat mika up? >> i did not. i actually have to say, it's unnerving going on television for we writers. but it's especially unnerving when the interviewer knows all the stupid things you did when you were 12. >> exactly. >> and can bring them up at any time. >> what about 16, 17 and 18? don't forget those years because those were horrible. >> there's a police report about that. >> you talk about isaac's army and you talk about the brutality that jews in poland underwent starting in 1939 when the naz...

Communist-backed government. and they, in fact, use the success -- the predecessor of the kgb to sort of run the blockades, the british blockade and get hundreds of thousands of holocaust survivors into what was then palestine to found, eventually to found israel. and i think he could have made a real political career, obviously. he could have possibly been prime minister. and he just said, you know what? i'm done. and he wants to attend to his vegetable garden on his kibbutz and lead a quiet, you know, sort of peaceful life. he did and passed away in the 1980s. >> the book is "isaac's army: a...