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These societies are going through these enormous transformations. and what we can do is work with the best impulses there. folks that understand moderation, tolerance or trying to deliver for their people. the extremism that isis represents. what we're not going to do is chase wherever extremists appear, occupy those countries for long periods of time and think somehow we're going to solve those problems. >> at times, doesn't seem like anything's gone right in this region from the administration. from benghazi, the civil war in syria, uprisings in egypt. and three failed mideast peace process ...

To ignore it or turn the other way. really it's not an option. we don't want to see another attack on the american homeland. >> the wall street journal front page. in an interview with morning joe the president talked about the difficulty. the challenges in respond together fast moving challenges in the middle east. let's listen to that. >> we're going have to deal with some of the worst impulses there. the extremism that isis represents. what we're not going to be able to do is play whack a mole and chase whenever extremists appear. occupy those countries for long periods of time, and think s...

>> i think that one of the things the american people at least understand is that these societies are going through these enormous transformations. what we can do is work with the best impulses there, folks who understand moderation, tolerance, are trying to deliver for their people. we're going to have to deal with some of the worst impulses there, the extremism that isis represents. what we're not going to be able to do is play whack a mole and chase wherever extremists appear, occupy those countries for long periods of time and think somehow we're going to solve those problems. >> at times ...

Forces. >> can i ask you what happened 12 years ago when you interviewed john walker lindh? he was a different breed from what isis represents. what drives someone to lead a relatively comfortable life to go fight and as you're indicating they'll likely die in a foreign war? >> i've been with many jihadi groups. i've been with at least three u.s. jihadis that went over to fight. they go over to fight and die. john walker lindh was trained up by al qaeda. he sat at the foot of bin laden. his goal was to actually strengthen the local forces by essentially creating a suicide force or a wall of st...

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