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Exactly they stand, but they re pretty efficient and rather disciplined group. so if they decide that they re going to play ball for the time being with the americans, that could be to the american advantage although ideologically they re closer to al qaeda. again, al qaeda is an organization that s largely been crushed in afghanistan, and isis is trying to fill that super extremist vacuum. so it s a very complex environment, making very strange bedfellows. i think any immediate attempt by the united states is a pipe dream to get the isis-k oper operatives. these are people who have been operating in this urban environment, committing appalling atrocities. you ll recall recently a bomb attack at a girls school. that was isis khorasan. they particularly pick on these groups where they can try to sow sectarian discontent. they re all about creating ....