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Campaign has wanted to do, get another surrogate out there, that's what we heard, a possible earlier selection. and david drucker had an interesting article about rob portman and what it would mean to mitt romney in ohio. we have an nbc poll up there, shows obama with portman, 47%. very fascinating stuff. >> yeah, i think that in the old way of looking at vice presidential candidates is that, can they win you a state, can they make you stronger in a particular region where you might be weak. and i think because politics in this country has become so nationalized, that's the old way of looking ...

Thornel former press secretary for chris van holland. welcome. it was said in the "washington post" about the eric holder versus the house republicans, quote, holder is playing to lose if the gop will let him. no republican or conservative commentator should even raise it. the public tunes out when something becomes just another partisan squabble. why isn't this more obvious to the gop leaders? you used to work for a gop leader, brad. is this distracting from the economy? >> not at all. and i think you need to step back and look at what we're dealing with here. good politics isn't about paybac...