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Stone today and what he should glean from the language and behavior of judge jackson yesterday to paul manafort in the sentencing and whether you think that judge jackson is actually going to be a little bit wary about throwing roger stone in jail because of how he can play it in the court of public opinion. >> i think this will be an interesting and difficult decision for judge jackson. on the one hand, she has given roger stone quite a bit of leeway and every inch she has given him he has taken advantage of. her language last time was pretty clear. she said i have the right to revoke your ba...

Trial. and this isn't baseball. you have gotten a second chance. you'll not get a third one. she's probably going to give him a third chance. but i think we're also going to get a trial date today and find out when he faces trial. given what little ability he has shown so far to keep his nose clean while he awaits trial, the chances of him making it to trial without somehow violating the gag order or doing something else inappropriate that lands him in hot water seems fairly low. >> glen, you spent yesterday for us in the courtroom watching judge amy berman jackson, same judge who sentenced pa...

Contributors, barbara mcquade and joyce vance. the last time roger stone was in court as they enforced that gag order,en the judge, judge jacks, said there isn't baseball, there's two strikes but not three.o >>no i am surprised she didn't impose some penalty. it is a tricky area. people have first amendment rights to speak about things of public interest and this certainly is one of them. ordinarily whenne gag orders ar imposed, the judge is able to justify it on the basis of what's called strict scrutiny, finding that there's a compelling governmental interesp in protecting a fair trial, and ...

People that do far less get the same kind of time. >> roger stone is going to appear before judge jackson today. they are working on getting a trial date for charges, lying to congress and obstruction of justice. what are you expecting? >> well, remember, judge jackson made a very definitive statement the last time roger stone was hauled into the courtroom for posting an instagram photograph with -- >> but the statement wasn't punishment. he's still walking in a free man. he didn't sleep in jail last night. >> she said this isn't baseball. you don't get three strikes. the next time this happen...

Has, that same transparency put her on record as saying no more do-overs for mr. stone. and we all know that now. i wonder how you think that factors in. i'm going read you from what she told roger stone the last time over the gag order. i gave you a second chance. this isn't baseball. you don't get a third chance. do you think her saying that on the record and the nation knowing it really raises the pressure on her to have meaningful punishment for him now? >> that's a great question, ari, because she did put herself sort of in a bit of a box by saying you don't get a third chance. but let me...