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That's important to know because just like the search with the grid on the ocean, every time you find out that the plane isn't somewhere, that's relevant. now we hear another bit of information. they're looking into the food, david. why? we all know that airplane food is not great. why might it be suggestive of something more here? >> this shows how dedicated they are. they're looking at every aspect they can. food is a vulnerability on an airplane. i know it is for me. it's possible for any fair just intent. not everybody eats. to me, it doesn't seem like a common thing if -- >> i hear you on...

Missiles. so all the unknown questions as we see this search area tracking back up north and becoming more and more frustrating. we need to keep prodding the authorities to get those answers. >> important for two reasons. one, it would be great to know if there is other information. because if there isn't extra information, they're working off very little data. >> what we need to do is corroborate why we are looking in the south and eliminate data as to why we shouldn't be looking in the north. if we can keep progressing through the investigation using that concept, then i think the authoritie...

Things they looked at. they've done more than 170 interviews in this, and he called it a criminal investigation. they still have no direct links to know what happened inside the cockpit. they've asked so many questions. they're talked to just about everyone who touched that a aircraft, kate. they believe there's a possibility they may never know. the prime minister is down in australia. until and unless that flight data recorder is found, they're not likely to have the information that they need to conduct a real investigation into what happened on board the plane. chris? >> you certainly put ...

Officials in kuala lumpur demanding absences. the meeting was also watched by families in beijing. many of them have chosen to stay in china determined not to go until solid evidence that debris or remains are found is available. joining us now from beijing is steven wang. he attended the briefing with officials. did anything come out of this meeting that was heldful to you and your family? >> well, today's meeting, i don't think it -- it just give us any useful information because they just let us to ask question, maybe we just ask four, five question. after that, they said the investigation ...

Criminal investigation when they say they have no connection between the pilots and this event. david? >> the fact that there was a turn at hand, a human hand. however it was actually commanded. the fact is that this airplane had intent. it wasn't an automated thing. it wasn't a free flight that just decided to make that turn. >> do they know that? >> yes. >> they know it couldn't have been a turn on trim, so to speak, because of something that happened on the plane? >> it's not just the turn, it's the recovery from the turn. if it turned and continued to spiral, yeah, possibly no one's at the...