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Eight years with a sunset. why isn't it permanent? >> i think part of it is two-fold. one is the arcane procedures we had to keep a 50 vote threshold the the other big one, and i reached out to a number of democrat senators and house members, they made it very clear early on they were not going to provide one single vote. >> it's not their fault it has this sunset provision. they didn't come up with this provision. >> it is the byrd rule. it is their fault. eight democrats could have gone and made it permanent. if chuck schumer had just provided eight democrat votes on that one issue. he didn'...

Taxes for over half of american households. it will cut medicare -- >> melissa: it's not. >> it's going to raise taxes on middle-class families. >> melissa: in 2024 when things hit their sunset. >> so it does, not immediately. why isn't it permanent? that's not in the tax reform bill. >> melissa: we've seen what's going to happen on tax reform, is there a deal to be made in the background in exchange for helping about something else? >> i've set a long time since president trump reversed daca which i think legally was the right thing to do, there is an easy fix here. formalized amnesty for dre...