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Members, whatever there are, seven or eight that have raised objections to this. if they undercut joe biden and joe biden's numbers drop, it makes it hard on every democrat, especially the moderates. the first people to lose in line in an election when joe biden's numbers fall and he doesn't fulfill his promises isn't the progressives. it's the first people to fall are those people in swing states or swing districts and those are the people objecting to this when in reality they're the most vulnerable. >> why don't they know that? >> every single election when you look at that, every time some...

Level -- federal level -- at how well joe biden does, what he delivers to the american public and where he stands. and the best way to do that is deliver the package that he's presented, that the majority of the american people in every poll want. >> okay. so are you speaking directly there to the sinemas and the manchins of the -- of the world? because they are going to say well, that doesn't play in my district. >> i'm speaking to the sinemas and the manchins of the world and i am speaking to those house members, whatever there are, seven or eight who have raised objections to this because i...

>> uh-huh. >> and now, look. i know, people on the left will say, oh stop. stop saying the democrats are fighting with each other. no, they're not. it's just joe manchin. that's just not true. okay? boo biden met with a whole bunch of house members today. you just had a house member say half the progressives won't vote with the bill on monday. they have real problems. they have got to get it straight or they are going to lose. >> i agree with you on a larger part, again, as we said. but also, when you dig deeper into it with the progressives' agenda, not all of tit is bad. >> i am just saying ...

>> and all those things and you are -- we keep compromising and we keep compromising. well, the whole idea of politics is about a compromise. >> 50% of something is better than? >> than zero. but i think at this point they have got to put up a strong fight and a strong resistance and say, hey, look. this is what we want. i think at the end of the day, i think there will be some relenting. a lot of relenting from all parties involved but i think at this point, even the progressives have to hold firm to get as much of what they want as possible. and it's the same thing with those who are more co...